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What society? Part 3!

Recap: Last time I talked about how important motivation is to human exist, and how only the social contract makes us have good and moral action. So why is it humans must have a social contract to be moral? 

Ok lets just accept the premise that animals are moral, although it is truly debatable, I am just going to say they are so, what makes us immoral? I have concluded this to one simple answer because we are social. We have perfected our languages to an extreme and we have a desire to share what we know, what we learned, to be accepted, to be respected, and to be better than others. And again we can ask why do animals not share these desires? And again the answer is simple, because they lack the intelligence to (when was the last time you saw a dolphin explain the laws of physics?).

This creates the question, are people than inherently evil in the state of nature? To tell you the truth I have always thought yes, yes we are. But I have changed my views over time. So to answer that no we are not inherently evil, what makes us evil? The fact we are so emotional, and what makes us that way intellect. These are some pretty bold statements, to say that our down fall is something we consider a virtue. Again let me explain. 

As we grew more sociable, and by my premise more intelligent, we grew the ability to feel sorry for ourselves. Oh poor me, my father abandoned me, I broke my leg, I don’t have enough food. You know what an animal does when their father abandoned them, doesn’t give two shits and continues on with their lives. But since we grew the intellect to find out who are fathers, and grow an emotional attachment to them we kinda give a shit when they abandoned us. And when we felt sorry for ourselves we felt the inevitable need to find attention and love and respect some where somehow, and most of the time we do this by performing immoral actions, drinking, drugs, etc. Getting attention any way possible. 

So why must we have a social contract to be moral? Because we are to fucking social, and if you put us into a state of nature we would lack motivation to be moral, and we would form another social contract so we could once again be loved and respected. Till part 4 let me know what you think. 

Just read some dialogues from Plato

soul-hip-hop-muzic:

sometimes i wish Socrates was my teacher

Hell yeah. 

What society? Part 2!

 My thoughts on what why we do things and why we can't just live and be moral beings. 

Lets begin by a little antidote.  The other day I was watching Fox’s series, Touch, about a little boy who is cable of seeing numbers that connect the people of the world so good things happens. The one catch is the boy can’t talk, so his father has to go around doing all these things for him so the world is a better place. So why does the father do this? So he can communicate with his son (who doesn’t talk, can’t be touched, and most of the time doesn’t listen to what the father says). This got me thinking would the father (saying some how he knew these things needed to be done without his son) do these random acts. Then I grow into thought, why does anyone do anything? is it only the law that makes us moral, or can we be moral without laws and a social contract? 

Yes, I mean no. Let me explain we can NOT be moral without a social contract or societal pressure, actually I don’t think we would do anything good without the social contract. This is best supported by Plato’s ring of Gyges (which is NOTHING like a story we all know and love). In the Ring of Gyges a man receives a ring that lets him become invisible, and out of the ability of getting in trouble. So he goes on to kills the king. It was the idea of getting punished that stopped him from getting punished. Hmm… so it was the social contract that stopped him from doing bad actions.

So why is it that we perform no good actions, one word: motivation. Lets go back to my antidote, the dad had motivation for doing these good acts because it was his only way of communicating with the son. The man from the story didn’t kill the king before he had the ring because he had motivation not to do so, not getting killed. So heres a little science for you, would the earth spin around the sun if it had no gravity? No because the earth is lazy, and it needs motivation to do so.

So heres another antidote, a morbidly obsess man wants to lose weight (according to what I previously stated he is not just going to get up and start doing it unless he gets motivation) so he goes online and finds a weight lose program, the details are kinda shady and it offers no explanation, but he goes with it any way. The next day a gorgeous women completely naked comes to his house with a sign around her neck that says, “If you can catch me you can have me.”. He loses 20 pounds that week. The next week a 300 pound man comes to his house, also completely naked, with a sign around his neck that says, “If I can catch you I can have you.”. He loses 100 pounds that week. 

While this is by no means is a really story, it is by all means what would really happen. The person isn’t just going to get up and start working out because he wants to get in shape (that is a proven fact, and mostly he will go at it for a couple of days then he will quit), with motivation it was easy. The hot women and the fat man are what the social contract is to the rest of us. We will not have good table manners unless society pressures us to having them. Motivation is the key to human exist, every action we do. Any ways if I haven’t lost you by now I am going to lose you soon, so till tomorrow (What society? Part 3). And of course let me know what you think. 

What society?

Interesting isn’t it to think of how we are as people. Wanting and needing to be together, not alone, and in joining together we create a society. No other animal has such a desire, they are by all means happy eating their bananas or berries, but we are not. We, as humans, seek the need to be liked, desired, and respected by other humans. So why? And why does this need compile us to live in a society?

Are we really the only animal to do this? We have animals like the lion, the elephant, etc. which all live together, but we are the only animal to do it so vastly. Then to go as far as establish rules and then enforce those rules, and considered what is right and what is wrong. So why can’t we just live? Be moral beings in a state of nature, if every other animal can?

This brings me to my main point, can we be moral beings without laws and rules? Is society, and societal pressure the only thing that makes us moral? 

Tell me what you think….